Turn On in Bed Turn On in Life – Transcript
Turn on in bed, turn on in life. I always talk about the connection between what happens in your bed and what happens in your life. Your bed is your recharging station, your sanctuary, and your secret weapon. It is the source of all things. This is where you can create your entire life from.
Your bed becomes a microcosm for the greater picture of your life. As you connect and elevate in your bed, you’ll find that you take that energy out into the world. As you feel more excited and alive in your genitals, you feel more alive and excited in your outer life.
As men occupy their erections more, standing firm and powerful in their cocks and in their partners, they step out into the world, wielding their potent masculine energy and strength.
As a man builds stamina and learns to go the distance and f**k her into oblivion, he also learns to take the world, bend it over, and f**k it to smithereens, in the best of ways. He has more stamina and capacity in his workouts and his work. He becomes more dominant and confident.
As women cultivate more juiciness in bed, they find that they flow more in their lives. They are more relaxed and easygoing, and they’re able to go with the flow. A woman learns to accept her own radiance and beauty, magnetizing opportunities to her like she magnetizes her man to her pussy.
As she dives deeper into the world of vaginal orgasms, her blueprint for life becomes bliss and ecstasy on the daily. No more struggling to achieve things. Instead, she gets there through letting go and surrendering, just like she does to achieve the most intense cervical orgasms. Your orgasms are your greatest teachers.
These shamanic and rich, life-changing experiences take her to her own depths and show her that she can go deep and intense in anything and everything. She becomes unflappable, and so does their relationship. The couple becomes superpowered. Not just the power couple but the superpower couple.
Your bed and each other become your secret weapon. But this only happens when you are united in a deep way. When you are having regular, quality, gourmet sex dates. Marathon sex dates where you go deep, metaphorically die, and are transformed. That is the price of admission. You shed the old parts of yourself and emerge as a clearer, stronger, more radiant version of you.
You harness the power of la petite mort, the little death and rebirth. This has the power to help cleanse you of all you don’t need, strip you down to your essence, and then amplify that and let it shine out into the world, if you let it. If you give yourself over to the power of the holy f**k.
In today’s episode, we are speaking with an All-Star Superpower Couple who have seen miraculous changes in their outer lives as a result of diving deep into their sex life.
We will talk about how their quickies went from 20 minutes to an hour [laughs] and how they went from having sex one to two times a week to having it at least five times a week, and two to three hours at a time.
We will discuss how she gets wet by giving him head and how her PMS period symptoms and skin issues cleared up as a result of being well-f**ked.
We will discuss his epic shifts in his business, and my favorite quote from him in probably the whole podcast, “Did I get that phone call today with an amazing job offer because of the cataclysmic sex we had last night?”
***Turn On In Bed Turn On In Life All Star Interview***
KIM: Welcome, Barbara and Paul. It’s wonderful to have you here.
BARBARA: Thank you so much. It’s great to be here.
KIM: We want to talk all about the superpower couple that you have become through your sexual journeying and transformation. As we were chatting earlier, you made this great analogy about following your instincts and improvisation and likened that to jazz. Let’s dive into that topic.
BARBARA: Okay. As we began this journey, we were committed to this idea of the gourmet sex date and spending two and a half, three hours together. It came at first with some expectations, and we had to figure that out. There are things we wanted to try, things that we wanted to do together, and sometimes it doesn’t work out the way you planned.
PAUL: Well, at first, I said, “What the hell are we going to do for three hours?” Because I was new to the concept, I said, “Well, this sounds awesome, so let’s give it a go, but we’re headed into uncharted territory here.”
KIM: I think that’s the common comment that people have. “How do we have sex for three hours? How are we going to fill up three hours? I don’t understand.” Then, when they really get into it, they say, “Oh, now I get it. Three hours can go by in the blink of an eye.”
PAUL: For sure.
BARBARA: Yeah. There are so many layers and so much going on. As these months have gone by, we’ve been creating this wonderful palate or collection of all different—I don’t know, like cooking in the kitchen, throwing all these different spices in.
PAUL: The palate has expanded quite a lot, actually.
BARBARA: Right, right. There’s this quote that we really like that resonates with us in other areas of life. We think it’s Miles Davis who said it. Sometimes we argue about who said it, but I think it’s Miles Davis. He had this incredible night with his band, and the band was absolutely amazing, and he said it was transcendent. But he also said, “If you show up here tomorrow night and try to do the same thing, you’re all f**king fired.”
Because that’s jazz. You have to be in the moment, and you cannot go in and just try to force this unnatural expectation. You have to be there and let this organic, beautiful …
PAUL: Experience unfold.
BARBARA: Exactly. That is what we have applied, and that’s what we keep coming back to. Because then we’ll laugh and talk about it afterward, like, “Okay, what happened for you? What was that like? When this happened, what were you feeling?” We break it down for each other afterward, and we say that it’s like jazz.
PAUL: I was brought up playing classical music, so, “Here is an exact thing, and play it exactly like this and do this.” When I was a teenager, I said, “I’ve got to expand on this. I want to play rock and roll, I want to play jazz, I want to do all this other stuff.” My teachers didn’t know anything about that, so I became this self-taught improviser.
I just didn’t realize until recently how much I could apply that creativity to our sex lives.
BARBARA: Yeah.
PAUL: And when we talk about the transcendent experience, it’s like—
BARBARA: Yeah!
PAUL: I know we just thought of the same exact thing! [Laughs]
BARBARA: Yeah! You can’t force that, and you can’t plan it and decide, “Oh, this is the night that we’re going to do this.” As soon as you do that, of course, you’re going to mess it up. That’s not how it’s going to happen.
PAUL: But those transcendent nights are the ones we talked about. It’s not like there was anything wrong with our journey before.
BARBARA: Right, right.
PAUL: But it’s just expanded into this new universe that we didn’t know we didn’t know about.
BARBARA: Yeah, exactly. Did not have any idea that it existed, and it’s very gratifying for us, and especially for me, because every once in a while, I used to get these really different orgasms. This would happen every once in a while, and I didn’t know what—what did I say? I think I called them emotional.
PAUL: You did. You called them emotional orgasms.
BARBARA: Emotional orgasms.
PAUL: And I was thinking to myself, “Oh, no. The clitoral orgasm is the real one. She’s just, whatever, in her head. Whatever. If she likes it, I’m good, it’s all good.”
BARBARA: Yeah. “Okay, glad you’re having a good experience, honey, but I don’t know what you’re talking about.” One of them that was really memorable was our wedding night. We had no idea what it was, but it was just the most amazing thing I’d ever felt in my life. I can remember it so well and so clearly. It was incredible. And what we realized—
PAUL: Just last night. [Laughs]
BARBARA: You just realized this. He just put this together last night. I was on my period!
KIM: Oh! The plot thickens.
PAUL: Yeah. You had opened up.
BARBARA: That makes so much more sense to us! Yeah, he said, “Oh my god, remember?” Oh yeah, that was pretty cool.
KIM: All right. Well, lots to dive into. First of all, I want to come back to period sex, and I want to come back to get a sense of where you were, where you are now, and some of the shifts you’ve had. The place that I ultimately hope people get to is what you’ve described. I never saw the logic in trying to teach people a step-by-step of how to give a blow job or other kinds of things.
What I’m trying to do is clear away any debris or conditioning or anything that lies over top of people’s innate instincts. When they’re in touch with that, then that’s what sex is. It becomes this intuitive dance and flow and tuning into your own energetic flows and the flow of the universe. That’s what you’re—the way you’ve described it—really embodying in your intimate life together.
That requires doing some work to clear that space and being committed to the process, and ultimately, that’s the place to end up. I love that you’ve come up with your own analogy around that, around jazz and letting go.
Even I feel that sometimes when I’ve had epic sexual experiences, and then I’m almost nervous to go into the next day of, “Okay, is that going to …” [Laughs] You know, where do we go from here?
But I think what happens is that when you build up enough epic experiences with your partner, then you also have that proven to you, that yes, they can be all kinds of different—as you say—flavors, and they ultimately can still achieve epic-ness all the time. But we do let go of, “Okay, we did it this way, we did 69 for an hour, and then you were on your period, so we have to make sure we have period sex the next time.”
They are great observations to add to the repertoire, into the encyclopedia, but ultimately, yeah, I love that you are committed to being faithful to the moment.
BARBARA: Yeah. And it changes you, too. You have these experiences together and you carry them with you. You’re changed. You’re different.
PAUL: And the connection is different.
BARBARA: I think that every experience like that, the other side of it is just that your emotional connection is growing too, and then there’s a different level of trust going in that you can navigate these things together, and it doesn’t matter what happens. We can just ride the waves together, and we’re there to support each other, and what happens, happens.
Actually, as it happens more and more, I think that it demystifies it and releases the pressure, so you don’t have to go into it thinking every time has to be like that. You can be a little more excited about something different happening.
PAUL: I love the variety. How many times have we stopped afterward and just looked at each other like, “What the hell was that?” [Laughs] “Did we find some new spot that we didn’t know about before?”
BARBARA: Yeah.
PAUL: Or whatever it is.
BARBARA: Yeah, yeah.
PAUL: Those are the amazing times.
BARBARA: And then, as we’ve been clearing blocks and things like that along the way, just getting stuff out of the way, one of the things that’s really helped me about being in the salons is hearing things that give me permission. And one of the major things was cock love. That was one of the biggest breakthrough experiences.
Again, a really cool insight that he had about me long before I ever had it—going down on him is so great, and I love it so much. I never knew that I loved it so much, but he did. [Laughs] Because the proof is in the pudding, and he has always known that that gets me going because he can feel the difference, and I’m all revved up.
PAUL: The difference in lubrication from you going down on me has been noticeable since day one.
KIM: You get lubricated by giving him head?
PAUL: Oh yeah.
BARBARA: Right, right. During the salon, I had this wonderful realization, “Oh my gosh, I love this!” And I never even knew that it was a thing. I was not aware of it at all, but it was just something that needed permission, or there was a glass ceiling that needed to be shattered, or something that was holding me back in that. Just being given permission to love it was so beautiful for me. But it just cracks me up that he knew all along. [Laughs]
PAUL: Like you say, the proof was in the pudding. It was right there.
BARBARA: Yeah. The vagina doesn’t lie.
PAUL: Right.
KIM: That’s right. Go back to the period sex. You know I talk about that as this incredible portal for women, and when we share that with our partner, that can lead to some of the best sexual experiences ever. Some of my peak sexual experiences happened when I was on my period, for sure.
BARBARA: Yeah. We’ve always been down.
PAUL: I remember her cousin was doing her hair on her wedding, and she said, “Oh my god, I’m on my period!” And she said, “Well, you do it on your period, don’t you?” She said, “Well, yeah.” [Laughs]
BARBARA: Yeah, yeah.
PAUL: But we didn’t realize the whole idea of opening up.
BARBARA: Yeah, we had no idea of that, but it’s funny because I didn’t know that it was a thing. I didn’t know that it bothered people and that there were people who didn’t.
KIM: Oh, right. Yeah.
BARBARA: I just figured, as soon as you weren’t a teenager anymore and you weren’t goofy and awkward, well, are you really going to go 25% of your life where it’s just off the table?
KIM: Right! Right.
BARBARA: That seemed bonkers to us. But then, I can’t remember who it was, someone made an off-the-wall comment, “Well, people don’t do that; that’s disgusting.” And we just kicked each other under the table laughing, like, “Oh, okay.”
PAUL: There’s a world you don’t know about! [Laughs]
BARBARA: Yeah! Luckily, it wasn’t an issue or anything. We always just, you know.
PAUL: Yeah.
BARBARA: I just try to make sure I don’t have a tampon in or anything like that because I don’t want to be dry.
PAUL: Well, that’s another thing. I think we think about that too. Especially when you’re on your period, you’re thinking about, “Well, this might happen,” and I’m thinking, maybe I’m going to pull it out now …
BARBARA: Oh yeah, yeah. I literally plan, “Oh, I’ve got to make sure I don’t use a tampon starting at this time of the day, because I want to make sure I’m not artificially dry as a bone.”
PAUL: But if you are, it’s not the end of the world either.
BARBARA: We just have to take our time.
PAUL: Yeah, you just take more time. And … darn! [Laughs]
KIM: [Laughs] Well, I love your attitude all over the place.
Let’s just paint a picture of where things were before and where they’ve come to. You’ve talked about in the past having sex maybe one to two times a week, and now you’re having these marathon two- to three-hour sex dates. You did have orgasms in the past but have now gone to a place where you have so many in a night that you can’t keep track or can’t count that high.
Tell us a bit about the evolution from where you were to where you’ve come to now.
PAUL: Okay. True confession. I don’t know if I’ve ever even told you this—
BARBARA: Okay.
PAUL: But, to me, our old sex life—there was not a person on Earth who ever heard me complain about it. It was great.
But I had this attitude like, “Well, she had two, and I had one, so she can’t complain. Right? She’s having twice as many, so that’s great, right?” We’ll put that on my list of didn’t know what you didn’t know. [Laughs] I just didn’t know—and I’m like, oh, three? Ultimate bonus, oh my god. I didn’t know what was available out there.
But when we first got the email from this holistic practitioner we both follow, it said, “Here is this thing called The Well-F**ked Woman.” I said, “What is this? What is this? What is this?” Because at some point we had a discussion, “Let’s uplevel our sex life,” and we were in lockdown! What better time to spend doing that? Anyone who did not spend that time doing that missed out.
KIM: Right!
PAUL: So, I got this email, and I thought, “This sounds awesome.” But I couldn’t just go to her and say, “Sign up! Sign up! Sign up!” I knew she got the email, and I was just waiting. I didn’t hear nothing and nothing and nothing. Two weeks later, she said, “So, I got this email, and I’m thinking about this…” I said, “I think you should do it, honey, if that’s what you want to do.” But I was thinking, “This is going to be awesome.” [Laughs]
And it was. The whole experience with the first salon was like, “Well, I have home play. Well, awesome, let’s do it!” She’d say, “I learned this new thing from Kim. Do you want me to …” “Please!” [Laughs]
One of the other things I did is read the Playboy article right away about the three gates, and I thought, “I don’t know what she’s talking about.” Now, the G-spot thing, which was not part of our repertoire at all—
BARBARA: At all! That’s his superpower!
PAUL: Well, that’s the first time, because this was the first experience we had, because we always knew how many orgasms she had. It was like, oh, she had a couple, so it’s all good. And we had no idea. We just flat out lost count.
BARBARA: Yeah.
PAUL: And I remember hearing some guy saying, “Oh, we had 60 orgasms this weekend!” And I thought, okay, but why are you carrying around a calculator in your pocket?
BARBARA: You said, “What? Is that possible?” What does that mean?
PAUL: Just go for it, dude! [Laughs] And so for us, it’s just been this flow, especially with the G-spot, because it’s like it’s a wave and then another wave and then another wave. But it’s just something we like doing.
BARBARA: Yeah. It’s just opened up so much. Timewise, I think we used to spend 45 minutes. That was a normal amount of time.
PAUL: You mean tops.
BARBARA: Yeah, tops, 45 minutes to an hour.
PAUL: Yeah, and a quickie would be—
BARBARA: I don’t know. Twenty minutes?
PAUL: Twenty minutes?
BARBARA: Oh my god! And now, 45 minutes or an hour, that’s a quickie.
KIM: That’s a quickie!
PAUL: Oh yeah.
BARBARA: Yeah! There’s just not enough time, just getting going. And it’s so nice. It’s just such a different experience. It was always great. There was not anything wrong; it’s just doing the same thing over and over and over again. At some point, you have to learn more. That is the point that we were at. We were at the point where we had to do something. We had been together, the two of us, for so long. We couldn’t learn anything new from each other. We did need some guidance, we did need some information, and we had no idea where to get it. We don’t watch porn; we’re not interested.
PAUL: You know, you poke around on the internet, and you get people saying, “Oh, I’m a sex expert. Here’s a list of tips and tricks.” And tips and tricks are great—well, I should say they’re sometimes workable. Let’s use that. But it doesn’t get to the deep connection or any of the things that really make the huge difference. Hardly anybody talks about cervical orgasms!
BARBARA: Right. But the other thing is that tips and tricks—that’s giving a man a fish, not teaching him how to fish.
KIM: Right! Yes.
BARBARA: And that’s what you’re doing. You’re just opening up the universe. This is the universe that’s available to you, and then you get to decide how you’re going to navigate that, how you’re going to do that. Then when you have that realization that it’s a universe out there, and there are an infinite number of possibilities, that’s just freedom.
PAUL: Yeah. Jazz is freedom. It’s the ultimate musical freedom. It feels like a couple of things to think about, but you just have to go for it.
BARBARA: Right.
KIM: I love that analogy of the fish, because that’s definitely my approach; tips and tricks are just amateur. That’s amateur hour or like a superficial Band-Aid that never really gets deeper. Ultimately, I want people to find that connection and flow within themselves, so I love that you describe it that way.
One of the things I love that you said to us was that you were having a lot of crazy marathon sex dates and staying up really late, and your father took one look at you and said, “You look great! You look so well-rested.” And you and your husband just about fell out of your chairs, but it was one of the best compliments you’ve ever had.
BARBARA: Oh my gosh, it was so funny! I was almost self-conscious, thinking I must look haggard. Because sleep is very important to me, and I get eight hours; that’s nonnegotiable.
I had to let that go. I had to just decide, “Now, this is a very important thing, and it’s definitely about health. I’m going to do this, and that’s okay.” I had to just tell myself, “It’s going to be okay. You’re going to stay up late, and there are other benefits to it, and this is okay. We’re going to play with this and see what happens.”
And of all people, my dad!
PAUL: My god!
BARBARA: He’s very superstitious, so he doesn’t dole out compliments because then he thinks something bad will happen and it will be his fault.
KIM: Oh my gosh! Whoa.
BARBARA: Luckily, he didn’t ask me what I was doing! [Laughs] But you could tell that he was just genuinely overcome. “You look amazing!” Of course, I’m his daughter, so he tells me I’m beautiful all the time, but it was really neat.
PAUL: It was pretty cool. A sincere compliment out of left field. And we thought, “Uh, yeah, don’t ask.” [Laughs]
KIM: It would’ve been great to maybe share what it was and then he could fall off his own chair.
BARBARA: Yeah, yeah. I think he would’ve.
PAUL: We don’t want to hurt him. [Laughs]
KIM: Let’s talk about some of the other effects that you’ve seen in your life. As a result of really deepening and strengthening your connection together, what would you say some outer effects were?
Barbara, you had talked about how you were not having any PMS any longer, no cramping, and your skin cleared up for the first time in years. I talk a lot about how when we truly are harnessing and harvesting our sexual energy and connected and we are really revving that engine, the sexual energy becomes the engine that then powers and fuels our entire lives. And then it blasts through blockages and health issues, vocational issues, financial issues, you name it. All of these things can be impacted.
What are some of the things that you’ve seen shift in your outer lives as a result of you becoming much more in sync in your intimate lives?
BARBARA: Well, we are making a very, very big change in our lives. We are moving. I just today put in my resignation at my job of, gosh, 16 years.
PAUL: Well, 16 years there, and a couple of years before.
BARBARA: Yeah, even longer.
PAUL: Yeah.
BARBARA: We’re doing bold, gutsy things that I just don’t know if we would’ve done. I don’t know.
PAUL: Yeah. As a musician, one of the funny things for me is the creativity has come out in different ways. The creativity is not just in the bed.
Also, confidence to try new things musically. I had an amazing experience last week. I was doing a recording session with professional musicians here in Los Angeles, and I had the French horn section that John Williams used for Star Wars. One of the guys came up to me and complimented me on the writing and said, “I really like how you did this, and this was different, and I like how you tried this, and this worked really well.” It’s breaking out of old molds and doing new, creative things. It’s been amazing for me. I’ve got the confidence to try that, to just feel like, “Hey, I know what the hell I’m doing. I can do this, and I can make it happen.”
It’s worked out in other gigs that I’ve gotten too. I just landed that other Abbey Road job for a recording musician who does orchestra music. Abbey Road is like the Holy Grail. It’s the Mecca. LA is amazing. But Abbey Road is what everyone wants.
It’s pretty cool that I’m returning to Abbey Road for this other thing that just popped up a month ago. When these things happen, my brain is still struggling with the idea of, “Did I get that phone call today with an amazing job offer because of the cataclysmic sex we had last night?”
[Laughter]
But the creativity, the confidence, everything that comes along with that, spills into everything that our life is about. It’s a whole new career change and everything, brand new, and we have literally lived in the same small suburb of LA our entire lives. It’s ridiculous. What’s the farthest you’ve ever lived from home?
BARBARA: Like 20 minutes away.
PAUL: Yeah, me too. So, we’re very much thinking, “Oh, okay.”
BARBARA: Yeah, this is just our little, you know …
PAUL: This is our little pocket of the Valley and …
BARBARA: Yeah. We’ve been here all our lives and never thought we’d go anywhere. But this year has been—
PAUL: Oh, this year is—well, god.
BARBARA: Obviously, this year has been a year to completely take you apart and put you back together. But to have this education this year was so timely because I think it really helped to solidify what’s really important to us, and our family unit is stronger.
The other thing that I’m going to do is homeschool our kids, which I never thought I’d be able to do, which doesn’t make any sense. It’s just one of those funny things you think you can’t do, but of course, you can.
And just having the guts to do what is right and necessary and important, and also just to know what’s important enough to you to really have to weed through everything and decide “This is actually what matters to me.”
Even having this chance to talk to you today was so timely. This is a really emotional week for me. I just feel like I’m being pulled apart in so many different ways.
And this was such a grounding thing that was happening. I was crying off and on all day today because I put in my resignation, and it’s a big, big deal. It was just so nice to have this beautiful reminder that “This is why you’re doing it, and yes, it’s sad, and you close a chapter, and you open up something new.” It just helps keep me grounded and to know this is why we’re doing it, and this is all the good that’s coming out of it.
PAUL: Our priorities have shifted this year.
BARBARA: Yeah. It’s really cool.
KIM: I love that. And I like what you said about, “Did I get this job offer because I had great sex last night?” [Laughs] Because I’ve seen that happen so much. Early on, when I was working with couples who were self-employed. With self-employed people, there’s a variable where you have work, you don’t have work, you have income, you don’t have income, and so it was easy to measure it with them. With someone who had a steady job, maybe it wasn’t as obvious.
I would be working with people, and we would hit a breakthrough in our work together. They would hit a breakthrough in bed and—boom—they would get an offer, they would get a phone call, they would get a job. They worked together.
But it was so obvious to me after that. It was like clockwork. We would clear something and literally the next day, some opportunity would fall in their laps because their lap was what attracted it.
I really love what you said about how the renewed, strongly built foundation of your relationship has now become this place that you can springboard off and make all these very huge, important, life-changing decisions in your world. This is also what I see; people get propelled by that energy. They’re not trying to do big things. It just happens. They are now propelled forward by their own inner life force or the universal life force that they are now in touch with. They have this superhuman energy that they can do these things, and like you said, courage and confidence.
I really salute you because again, the proof is in the pudding. If you’re doing the work and the play in bed, then that’s what shows up in your outer life. That’s why I asked you about that. I didn’t even know all those things as I was asking you, right? I knew a little bit, but to hear all of that is really spectacular.
BARBARA: Yeah.
KIM: Is there anything else that you would like to add?
BARBARA: I don’t know.
PAUL: Is there anything else you want to ask us?
KIM: Well, I’m just skimming through some of the notes that I had about you guys, and I think we’ve covered most of everything, like how you’ve gone from having sex one to two times a week and now it’s more like five times a week, two- to three-hour regular sex dates. I love what you said that an hour, 45 minutes, is now what you would consider a quickie.
Then I think also, to highlight this, as you said, you’ve been together for 20 years and now you’re saying you shower together “the way we did before we had kids. We hang out naked whenever possible. We compliment each other, we flirt, we talk. It’s been unbelievable to have the excitement of a new relationship coupled with the familiarity and closeness of a 20-year connection.”
I love that because that’s one of those mythological things that I often break down, where people say, “Oh no, it’s just not possible after 20 years, 30 years, even 10 years, to have a really thriving, alive relationship.” What would you say to that?
PAUL: Well, it’s funny because the 20-year thing, when we first got together, it went from a conversation about, “What’s happening here?” to within a few weeks, “I love you, I’m crazy about you, that’s it.” And maybe a few months after that, she came to me and said, “So, 20 years from now …” and I said, “Hold on.” This was a few months in it. And I said, “Are you comfortable with that? Saying 20 years from now?” She said, “Absolutely.”
We just knew.
BARBARA: Yeah.
PAUL: That’s another thing that’s so funny. “So, 20 years from now, you’re still going to be wanting to go for it?” And here we are, 20 years later, and it is the best sex of our life. My god! And here we are! Yeah.
BARBARA: But we were very committed to that. I think our families and our experiences and the baggage and stuff that we came with, we both very consciously wanted to create something that was different. We very much were dedicated to forever, and we always have been.
But it’s work. It’s not like it’s a walk in the park all the time. We definitely have our share of valleys. But I can’t say how many times we have thought, “We’re so lucky that we have each other, because it’s so rough out there!”
PAUL: And it’s like your friend said, “What you have is what everyone wants.”
BARBARA: Yeah.
PAUL: And that was really cool to hear.
BARBARA: That was really sweet.
PAUL: And I agree.
BARBARA: Thanks.
KIM: Aw, look at them, so beautiful. Well, thank you so much for letting us into your world and sharing what you’ve cultivated. You guys are just so radiant and beautiful that I can see the well-f**kedness written all over you.
BARBARA: Thank you.
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