Toxic Masculinity Is the LACK of Masculinity – Transcript
I love the idea that the ONLY toxic thing about masculinity is the absence of it.
Masculinity, in its truest form, is:
Beautiful.
Fuckable.
It inspires reverence. Respect. Admiration.
It makes a woman get on her knees and be compelled to serve.
It protects. It inspires trust.
It’s worthy of deep surrender and submission.
But…masculinity has been disowned.
And in that collective dis-ownership, it’s become distorted.
People have come to associate traits with masculinity that aren’t masculine at all.
The term “toxic” gets thrown around a lot.
It mostly applies to what most people see as an OVER-exertion of masculine urges.
Men who abuse power, who hurt people needlessly?
That’s not masculinity. It’s just fucked up.
Being fucked up has nothing to do with masculinity.
What’s actually toxic to your relationship—and humanity—what upsets a woman more than anything—is your INACTION.
PASSIVITY.
A lack of initiation.
These are all poison in your relationship.
And to you.
If I was to make a list of toxic turn offs, this is what it looks like:
TOXIC TURN OFFS:
- Backing down from a challenge
- “Mindless, directionless energy”, to quote The Damned. And it is damning. They were right.
- Lacking purpose and drive
- Not speaking up and telling the truth
- Living out of alignment with your integrity
- Being afraid to grow
- Wanting a woman to mommy him
TURN ONS?
- Seeing you conquer a challenge. Without fear or hesitation.
- When you thrive under duress while you figure something out. Even relishing it.
- Telling the truth. Boldly. Half-lies = half-lives.
- Seeing you excel in what you love, and continually growing in it
- When confronted with anything or anyone, you stand your ground, all firm like an erection.
- Taking action. Moving forward. Daily.
- Giving your word and keeping your word. Treating agreements as sacred.
- Taking initiative. Without being told, without having to checkin and ask. Don’t ask. Just do.
Beta male energy is an INVERSION of true masculinity.
It backs away from it.
Instead of seizing life and your woman’s vagina boldly, wildly, you pull back.
The sexual equivalent to this is premature ejaculation.
You bail too quickly. You don’t follow through. You back away from a challenge.
Premature ejaculation IS toxic masculinity.
Cowardice is toxic masculinity.
Fear and inertia are toxic masculinity.
Refusing to hunt and slay your demons: toxic masculinity.
Are you getting the idea?
The orchestrated campaign to confuse men, to strip them of what MAKES them men, is deliberate.
An undefended society—without any acting men in it—is easy to overtake.
The solution?
Become UBER-masculine.
Dedicate your life to becoming a king amongst men.
A lover, fucker and slayer extraordinaire.
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In today’s episode, we’re talking to Well-F**ked All Star Jeremy.
His wife was “wearing the pants” in their relationship.
They were both miserable, but they didn’t see a way out.
They didn’t even understand the problem, until they found my work and heard me articulate it.
And heard my relentless championing of wild, masculine men.
And the women who love surrendering to them.
KIM: Hi, Jeremy, welcome.
JEREMY: Hi, Kim, how are you?
KIM: Amazing. How are you?
JEREMY: I’m great. I am so good.
KIM: Okay. Let’s hear all about it. We wanted to talk to you about your journey of going from a place of not so much inhabiting your masculine or realizing there’s a lot more to go and then coming to actually really owning and occupying, being that part of yourself.
Tell us where you started and then, yeah, the journey to getting to a new era.
Weak erections = weak masculinity
JEREMY: I didn’t really think about masculinity much before. It kind of wasn’t on my radar. I knew things weren’t right in my world, and I didn’t really know what to do about it. I’ve been having like trouble with erections and trying to rekindle passion in my marriage.
My wife and I have been married for 23 years, and we had kind of fallen into the buddies’ trap. I really wanted to revive things between us, and she was just kind of, “Enh, I don’t think I’m just that sexual. It’s just not that much of a thing.”
And I had really, without thinking about it or being aware, I vacated my role as a man, as the head of the house in our family. I would always defer to my wife. Just do whatever she wanted to make her happy, but I wasn’t happy.
KIM: Do you think she was happy? Like when you thought that you were doing things to make her happy, did she seem like they were making her happy?
JEREMY: Not really, no. I don’t think so. Because I was like bitchy about it. I was unhappy about stuff I was doing, and I felt like a servant in my house. Nobody wants to be around that energy.
KIM: But you didn’t know that at the time. At the time, you thought that this acquiescence was your only option?
JEREMY: I thought it was what I had to do. I thought it was what I had to put up with but I—I wanted something better, but I didn’t know how to get there. It would be like 11:00 at night and I’d be like washing the dishes and just being pissy about it because I didn’t want to wash the dishes or whatever. It just sucked. I just didn’t know what to do.
We had been trying to really fix our love life and make it better. After a lot of like YouTubing, somehow I stumbled onto you. I think I saw you in an interview for somebody else on YouTube and I was immediately hooked.
KIM: What hooked you?
JEREMY: It’s the vision that you present for—I don’t think you have any competition in this space. Nobody’s doing what you’re doing.
KIM: Which is what? What do you see that I’m doing?
JEREMY: I was trying to—a lot of the YouTubers are trying to help men with erection issues and basically trying to help men with problems. What you’re doing is you present a vision of what a sexual relationship should look like. It should like—there should be passion.
You’re not just trying to fix problems. You’re like, “No, we’re going way, way beyond that to what ultimately you want your love life to look like. Let’s start there.”
So immediately—Mila was away on a trip—and I immediately called her and I was like, “I found this wild woman online, you have to check this lady out.” And we were both like immediately—it was the first time—we’d been working on this for like nine months—and it was the first time that she was actually interested in really pursuing trying to improve our passion.
The polarity “aha” moment
We both recognized pretty quickly when we heard the podcast about the concept of polarity, it was like [snaps fingers], “Oh, that’s it.”
KIM: Right.
The hate crime of being a hetero white male
JEREMY: That’s the problem. Just speaking for myself as a man, I feel like I walk out into society and I feel like I should apologize for being masculine. Like I should feel guilty for being a man and really it would be better for the world if I wasn’t. That’s how it felt before I had some awareness of like what was going on.
KIM: Yeah. I mean, look, I’ll validate that. That’s some of the dominant messaging out there, like being a white cis man—even though I don’t use that terminology, but that’s what people who do use that terminology say—is like the worst crime. It’s a hate crime. It’s a hate crime just for you to exist as a man.
JEREMY: Yeah. How dare I? How dare I do that, shame on me.
Masculine and feminine energies out of balance
KIM: [Laughs] Before you go for it, I also wanted to say that what you just described about the polarity piece, so for those who aren’t maybe familiar with that term, it’s the idea of looking at our masculine and feminine energies and how they’re interacting together in the relationship. If those get neutralized, then the sexual charge goes, people get bitter, resentful, they argue, they fight.
Just like you described, they know something is wrong, but they can’t quite articulate what it is. Then they read this information about polarity, they come across it somehow, and they’re like, “Oh, that’s what’s going on with us. We’ve got this skewed masculine/feminine energies in the relationship.”
JEREMY: And it’s an epidemic. It’s so prevalent. I think it’s probably harder to find people that don’t have problems with polarity than to find people who do.
KIM: Yeah. Agreed.
JEREMY: It was such a problem. I’ll just give you something that I—I was sitting at our dining room table. There’s two heads of our dining room table. Mila always sits at one head and then the other head is like far away and just like covered with junk and nobody sits there. I was like, “Holy crap. Just look at this perfect symbol of what’s going on. I am not taking the role that the family needs.” I didn’t view myself as a leader in the family.
Women take over control when men don’t but resent it
Really, the shift for me was recognizing that I have that role and if I’m not filling it, like my wife is going to have this instinct to come in and do it for me. And she’s not going to be happy about it. Like she’s going to be pissed. She’s not going to really—she’s not going to really know that that’s what’s bothering her, if that’s what’s going to be bothering her.
KIM: You described that perfectly of the experience that couples have, is that when the man leaves a void that way, the woman will step in to fill that void, but she’ll be pissed. She’ll be resentful and frustrated and then she’ll be showing that energy towards the man, and then the man, rather than like confronting that, usually what happens is that the man backs down.
He doesn’t fight, he becomes more passive, which in turn, angers her even more because she wants him to stand up and step up and he’s not. He’s like, “I’m just going to avoid the conflict, avoid the argument,” and tries to “make the peace” by getting quiet, but that’s actually aggravating the situation and the peace even more.
JEREMY: Yeah.
KIM: That’s also a really great symbol, as you said, of the dining table, and who’s sitting at the head of it where you could be sitting equally but you’ve actually just completely given that up and let her take the lead. Yeah, very telling.
JEREMY: To just carry on with the symbol, what I did next was I was like, “Okay, I’m going to go clear the crap off the end of the table so that I can sit down.” For a couple weeks it was just weird. Everybody would be overcrowded at their end of the table, and I’d be over on my end of the table.
Pretty quickly, Mila decided that she wanted me to be closer. She’s like, “You know what? I’m going to sit on the side, and you please come over and sit next to me at the head of the table.” And it just felt so good.
It’s little actions like that are the symptom of the change. The change for me was how I saw myself and my role in the family.
I would start recognizing where I’m not stepping up. It would be as silly a thing as like walking on the sidewalk, everyone else is walking in front and I’m like shuffling along behind. It’s like, “Okay, that’s not what leading looks like, Jeremy, just walk in the front.”
Getting stuff done around the house. I’m sure I will die with stuff left on my to-do list, but the to-do list is supposed to move. If I had time to myself prior to this, I would just sit and do nothing. I didn’t want to do anything. I think I was just depressed or upset or something, but that change, that was gone. Now I have time to do stuff, stuff is getting done. It doesn’t matter if it’s the dishes, if it’s hanging pictures, if it’s fixing sinks, it doesn’t matter what it is, it’s getting done. If it needs to get done now, it’s getting done now and I’m the one doing it.
I don’t feel upset about it because getting stuff done is masculine. It doesn’t matter what it is, if it needs done, then the masculine thing to do is get it done.
It feels really good and it’s been great to see the stuff that gets complete in our house that hadn’t been getting complete before. I can see in the way that my children look at me, I can see there’s respect there that there wasn’t before.
Men’s beta passive-aggression
KIM: Do you think some of that energy of reticence, of you not taking action, was also this passivity of—like almost a passive-aggression, like, “Well, I’m not going to do anything.” You’re also not happy in these roles and so you’re going to withdraw because I think when the man is feeling secure in his masculinity and confident about it, that is a real instinct and drive within him to do things, to take action, to take care of. But again, if that polarity is out of balance, I think what he does is he withdraws and he takes very little action.
JEREMY: I think that could be true, yeah. It could be that I was feeling bitter about not wanting to be who I was supposed to be, not wanting to fuel the household. Not wanting to do the things. So that was just like a big speed bump that I didn’t want to get over. But I think that’s totally possible.
KIM: What you’ve said is that first of all, the awareness that this concept of polarity and your imbalance of it was the first step of recognizing, “Okay, this is what’s going on with us.” Then there needs to be a mutual agreement. “Okay, we don’t like what’s going on with us, here’s a pathway forward into changing that.” So presumably that happened.
And then what? Like how did that motion activate in you to move forward and out of that inertia? Like what happened in that process to move you out of it?
JEREMY: So Mila and I talked about it, and we agreed that we want to see each of us swimming a little bit more in like me more in my masculine, her more in her feminine. She was really great and very helpful because she would support me in this. Let’s say for initiating sex, for example, if I don’t initiate, she’s not going to initiate for me. She’s going to wait. She gives me space to take the leadership role.
He plans dates. He chooses what she wears and orders her food.
As far as what I was doing more, definitely just attacking stuff around the house, that was a big shift. A lot of the practices that you recommend, so like taking over the date planning. Honestly, dates were just kind of not a thing before then, so I just started scheduling things. We would go out and I would tell her what to wear and I would order for her.
This is all like—ordering at a restaurant for me is like—it’s like good training in masculinity. It’s not that hard. You just pick something off a menu and say, “Okay, you’re going to eat this.” You get it right or you get it wrong, whatever. It’s just like an easy thing to do that puts me in a masculine line.
And she loves it. I thought it was going to be like a challenge or a conflict and it’s fine. I know what my wife likes to eat. I’ve been married to her for twenty-some-odd years, I figured that out.
So we did that. That was great. We’re in the habit now of anytime we’re going out, she almost never knows what’s happening. We’ve got our first sex weekend tomorrow. She knows where we’re going but she has no clue what’s in store. She doesn’t know where we’re going to eat and it’s our anniversary trip. When we got married, we had a—her aunt sang and played guitar for us and she sang—it’s a Kate Wolf song called Give Yourself to Love. It’s going to make me cry.
She was off on a trip like a week ago, or two weeks ago, I learned how to play that song.
KIM: Wow!
JEREMY: And I took my daughter’s ukulele and said, “Honey, I need to borrow this for a few weeks.” I mailed it to the hotel. There’s going to be a box at the hotel, she’s not going to know what it is. I’m going to sit her down, put a blindfold on her and say, “Okay, you can take the blindfold off after the first verse.”
KIM: That’s so beautiful.
JEREMY: It’s going to be great. I can’t wait.
KIM: I love that. Amazing. I love the forethought in that and the creativity and it being so apropos. Like such a significant thing for you guys.
JEREMY: Oh, I was wondering what I was going to do for an anniversary gift. I wanted it to be something memorable. I write poems sometimes and I was trying to write one and I was like, “Enh, it’s not really working.” Then that idea came up and I was like, [snaps fingers] “That’s it.” She’s never going to forget that.
KIM: Yeah. That’s lovely.
Tell me how the reflection of your sex life, when you were in this previous phase, and where you’ve come to now, how has that changed as a result of the shift in polarity?
“She didn’t really care about sex before”
JEREMY: Well, my wife didn’t really care about sex before, I don’t think. That was definitely what it felt like. She is a wonderful person, and it felt like we had appointment sex every week. I think she was perfectly happy to miss it, but she’s a dutiful wife and knew I would be happy about it, and so we did.
But I didn’t get any impression that she cared about it. That was so frustrating because you know what your partner is feeling. We’ve been together a long time, so we know what the other one is feeling. I remember being so frustrated, because I was like, “I want to turn her on,” and it’s like, “There is just nothing that turns this woman on. She just doesn’t care about having sex with me.” And that hurt. That is definitely not the case anymore. Now it’s like I know she wants to have sex with me. I know she enjoys it. I know she looks forward to it.
When we have a sex date, we’re both going, “Oh, boy, yay! It’s our time.” And the sex is just so much better.
We tried a lot of different things and for us, we tried a lot of new acts.
I figured out what really turns her on is love. That’s what works for her. That’s what gets her going. The more that we make space for that, the more that I—the more empathy I have for her, the more I’m feeling what she’s feeling, and the more honest and open we are with each other, the better the sex is.
So before it was once a week, appointment, duty sex, and now it’s three, four times a week, and the passion is there. We both want it. We’re both loving it.
From 20 – 90 minutes of intercourse
KIM: You said you went from like 20-minute sessions to 60 to 90 minutes and climbing.
JEREMY: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
KIM: Of intercourse?
JEREMY: Yes, yes. I’ve been working on my stamina, which is good, because good things take time. My favorite is when I can get Mila to tap out. When we’re going, we’re going, we’re going, and she’s like, “Okay, that’s it, I can’t anymore, I just can’t.” I’m like, “Okay, that’s good.” Then yeah, that’s great.
So yes, 60 minutes, 90 minutes, totally realistic.
KIM: Fantastic. Then you said you’ve also managed to orgasm without ejaculation?
JEREMY: Yes.
KIM: Which is a huge achievement.
JEREMY: That’s a game-changer.
KIM: Yes.
JEREMY: I’d been doing the self-pleasure and breathing and relaxing.
Then I had just like a small orgasm one day and didn’t ejaculate. It felt like tingling in my legs and my arms mostly. And then I realized, “Wait, that was it.” I said, “Okay, that’s what we’re pursuing.” I don’t even know how many I had.
Peak masculine energy = peak erectile power
KIM: And what happens to the quality of your erections? Because I make that correlation a lot with men, that the erection really is the barometer of how much a man is occupying his masculine energy and power. When he isn’t, they can be limp, lackluster, not fully occupied, and when he is, the cock really grows into itself. It’s self-actualization of the erection and the cock when the man is owning his power.
JEREMY: Erections are way better. They are way better. I was always worried about maintaining, having, and just keeping erection and it was tricky. It didn’t feel like something that I could trust would just happen. That’s kind of a self-fulfilling prophesy, right? It’s no way to be. It gave me this instinct to like shrink and to hide. That was terrible.
KIM: Which is a correlation with your masculine self, right? You said the energy to shrink and hide. Exactly the same.
JEREMY: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It’s the same thing out in society when you—when I felt like I shouldn’t be who I was, when I felt like there’s this aspect of me that is really—I ought to apologize to the world for, it does make you want to hide.
But that’s not fulfilling your dharma. That’s not giving your gifts to the world. I am who I am.
“The best thing I can do for the world is just turn the volume up as high as it will go on me. Be as me as I can be.”
That’s what’s best.
We don’t want to shrink from who we are, we want to be who we are. We want to be the best version of ourselves, sure, but be us. That means being masculine. I’m a man, that’s who I am.
Back to erections, it’s just easy and trustworthy now and so much harder. It’s, yeah, it’s been great.
KIM: Love it. Is there any other element of this transformation that you want to address that we haven’t talked about?
JEREMY: I think one of the things that really helped us recognize is what we wanted sex to be in our relationship.
KIM: What’s even possible.
JEREMY: What’s even possible but also, like what it means. You get married to somebody and there’s this whole kind of ceremony about the wedding night, you’re going to go and have sex, and then society tells us that sex isn’t important.
KIM: [Laughs] Right. Right, I never thought about that particular viewpoint. Yeah, where the wedding night, the big sexual event, and then there’s this massive campaign to say, “But actually…”
JEREMY: Yeah, but actually it doesn’t matter. It’s just like, “Let it die,” and that’s just what happens. It’s okay, as long as you guys don’t fight, then that’s fine. If you do fight, well, it sucks to be you. I don’t know.
But when kind of flipped that on its head through your work, and saying actually, this is the only person you’re going to be allowed to have sex with, this is the only person who will touch you like this and if somebody else is touching your partner like this, you will care, so it’s really important. It’s the core of your relationship in many ways.
The whole purpose in getting married is so you can have sex and be partners and grow together and build a family and all that. But man, the sex is really foundational.
So we hadn’t been looking at it that way. We’d been viewing it as this kind of extra thing that’s like nice to have, rather than something critical for us. That was a really big shift in how we saw our relationship, and I think a part of why the—why we found the Anami vision so attractive immediately.
KIM: Because what you said before, your wife was treating it like an obligation.
JEREMY: Yes. And she was a good sport about it. But I knew she was being a good sport, and it didn’t feel good. I wanted to be desired. I wanted to be desired so badly I was fantasizing about women outside of the relationship. Thank God I hadn’t acted on it, but I was keeping that secret and just like, “There’s nothing good happening there. It was like poison dribbling into my garden.”;
Through the radical honesty and self-reflection, we cleared that. Now it’s just gone.
What it means when you fantasize outside your relationship
There was one—I’m getting maybe a little far off the beaten path, but there’s one lady that I spent years obsessing over this woman. I would cry at night because I couldn’t talk to her. I was seeing a therapist and trying to clear it, and it wasn’t until I finally got the courage to share with my wife what was happening did it stop being a problem.
KIM: So you were honest with her about this fantasy life and yearning, which, I mean, let’s face it, the way I would look at that is that’s symbolic of what’s missing in the relationship. Like do we literally take this as this woman is the woman for you? Or do we take the information that she represents something that’s missing, and you really want?
Feeling that your wife doesn’t desire you
JEREMY: Right. Yeah. That’s the thing, is like if we’re not getting something, we’re going to seek it. If it’s nourishment that we want, we’re going to seek it out and we’re not necessarily know what we’re doing.
It was just lucky for me that I didn’t step out. For damn sure, was upset. I was definitely upset and I had really strong feelings for—because I wanted to be desired so badly and I just—I didn’t have it from my wife because I wasn’t being somebody desirable, essentially. I wasn’t acting as a man. I was like a boy that she was—like a bitter little-boy-child that she was having to take care of, but I didn’t recognize that.
“Now I feel like a stud.”
KIM: Yeah. You used the phrase, “I feel like a stud.” Tell me about that. [Laughs] Look at that smile.
JEREMY: Yeah, being desirable has been like a big insecurity for me. I was a small boy. I think I was 80 pounds as a junior. I was tiny. I always felt insecure about it; I always wanted to get the girl. It wasn’t until much later that I finally started getting dates.
But always, I always had an insecurity that I wasn’t desirable. I started doing some positive stuff to switch that. I started working out. I put on some muscle, that’s great. But I still would feel like if I was interacting with a woman, I would think—I still had that—I’d get excited if I felt like she was attracted to me or something.
But now, I have more of the attitude of, “Of course she’s attracted to me. Why wouldn’t she be?” I feel attractive and sexy. I feel like somebody that women want. But I have one particular woman who wants me, and that’s the one that matters.
KIM: Yeah. I love it. And you earned it. Like that whole thing about love yourself first. Well, you had to earn that and cultivate that within yourself, so you know it. Then your wife knows it because she now recognizes it and she feels it.
JEREMY: Oh, yeah.
KIM: And you’re both reaping the benefits of it.
JEREMY: Yeah. If I’m coming from a place of neediness, if I’m coming from a place of insecurity, then yeah, she feels that. It’s not an attractive place to come from. But coming from a place of confidence, that gets her going.
KIM: Beautiful. Anything else you want to add?
JEREMY: I feel like there’s a—like I’ve got a long way to go still. I mean, it’s one of the really exciting things about your work, is you present such a grand vision and so many examples of what’s possible. I feel like I’m just at the beginning of this. I’m very excited to see what happens over the next year or so as I keep building my skill and keep moving forward with all the work.
And I really appreciate it, Kim. I don’t think there’s really anyone else doing what you’re doing.
KIM: Thank you. I’m really glad that it was—this path was appealing to you and that it’s had the impact that it has.
JEREMY: When I signed up for the course, I was like—it was tough for her, just looking at the time commitment. There was some initial kind of panic because she knew we were doing this together, but she didn’t know where the time was going to come from.
We made it a priority and pretty soon, the time was not a problem.
KIM: Well, comment on that time thing. It’s like time is elastic depending on what we want it to do, I think. If people get in a habit and they’ve normalized their distance with each other, then time works against them, in a way, or it rationalizes their decision.
Then when they start getting into this work and they see and they feel the benefits for it, like magically time opens up and they have time. You have to wonder, is time the effect or the cause?
JEREMY: Oh, right.
KIM: It becomes the effect of our intention and our choices. It’s like that whole find time or make time. It’s like when you’re actually committed, you both find and make the time, whereas people are like they just can’t find the time. Okay, you haven’t made that decision. You haven’t stepped over the line yet.
Initially, people are tiptoeing over the line. Will this work for us, what’s going to happen? Then as long as they do show up enough to start feeling enough of the benefits, then everything changes. They start to become the initiators of that movement now and they magically find that life rearranges itself to open up their schedules. “It’s like magic!” It’s your intention. You’ve gone onto the other side of being the creator and deciding you want this.
JEREMY: I didn’t think that we would have the kind of results that we did. I didn’t really believe that we would get through the course and everything would be changed. But that’s what happened. We did the work and now my wife wants me. She wants to—and we can’t spend enough time together. We could spend all day long together and be hungry. It’s so good.
KIM: I love it. That was really beautiful. I really appreciate hearing your journey and perspective on all this and a great beacon for other men because, as you say, I’d say this really is an epidemic. A manufactured epidemic, as all epidemics are, [laughs] and your finding your way through it. That’s wonderful.
JEREMY: Like men just—I don’t think we know how much we’ve taken on, like kind of the poison that we get fed and I know we don’t know what to do about it. It’s good to be able to do something about it.
KIM: 100%. And then you become the change for people to see in the world. You model that. Amazing.
Thank you so much, Jeremy.
JEREMY: Thanks, Kim.
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